MyDD :: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st

Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st

by Jerome Armstrong, Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:17:04 PM EST

Wow, Clinton sure does have a packed schedule in Florida on Thursday (see it in the extended entry) on behalf of Obama. Makes Maureen Dowd look stupid.

There was a big Bayh boon earlier today that got shot down.

Biden took a successful dump.

Dana Goldstein revels with anticipation in watching the furitive reactions to a Sebelius nod. How unity of Dana.

Late last night, did I really predict that Daschle would be the VP?

Obama is in VA today stumping with Warner, and tomorrow, he's doing a town hall event with Kaine, with reports that Obama is spending the night in Richmond.

The good thing is that its now less than 48 hours till you will know.

Update [2008-8-20 19:1:36 by Jerome Armstrong]: I was looking at the map yesterday, thinking the same tour thing as what Nate blogged, but I recall reading somewhere about Obama being in WI and E. IA after IL as well...

UPDATED HILLARY CLINTON SCHEDULE: AUGUST 21, 2008

Hillary Clinton will campaign for Senator Barack Obama in Florida's Orange County, Palm Beach County, and Broward County on Thursday, August 21.

In Orange County, Hillary Clinton will meet with officials from the Sheet Metal Workers International Association. Media may cover this event, but it is not open to the public.

In the afternoon, Hillary will attend a rally in Palm Beach County focused on why Barack Obama is the only choice for voters who care about issues important to women in this election.

Later Thursday, Senator Clinton will host an event with seniors in Broward County.

Both South Florida events are free and open to the public, but space is limited. Tickets will be available on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Thursday, August 21

Lake Buena Vista, FL à Boca Raton, FL à Tamarac, FL

Doors Open: 9:00 a.m. ET

Program Begins: 10:00 a.m. ET

Hillary Clinton Addresses Sheet Metal Workers

Disney Contemporary Resort

Fantasia B

4600 North World Dr.

Lake Buena Vista, FL

**All media must RSVP to Adora Andy, aandy@barackobama.com by today at 5:00 PM. For logistical and planning purposes only: Charla Bailey, 501-952-6230,

tbailey@sprint.blackberry.net. *

Pre-set: 8 a.m. - 8:30 a.m. ET

* Equipment must be dropped at the site by 8:30 a.m.; media will not have access to their equipment from

8:30 a.m. -9 a.m. . Live trucks MUST be parked and in place by 8:30 a.m. *

Throw: 80 feet

Cable Run: 500 feet - Must bring yellow jackets to cover cables

Live Truck Parking: Westside of Convention Center

Notes: Limited workspace; wireless internet service is available.

Doors Open: 12:30 p.m. ET

Program Begins: 1:30 p.m. ET

Hillary Clinton Attends Palm Beach County Rally for Senator Barack Obama

Florida Atlantic University Arena - "The Burrow"

777 Glades Road

Boca Raton, FL 33431

OPEN PRESS

All media must RSVP to Bobby Gravitz, rgravitz@barackobama.com 561-214-3977, by Wednesday, August 20 at 5:00 PM. Contact for logistical and planning purposes only: Ari Ratner, 213.610.1876 or amratner@gmail.com.

Pre-set: 10:30 a.m. -11:30 a.m. (Equipment must be dropped at the site by 11:30 a.m.; media will not have access to their equipment from 11:30 a.m. -12:30 p.m.. Live trucks MUST be parked and in place by 11:30 a.m.)

Media Access: 12:30 p.m.

Throw: 50 feet

Cable Run: 350 feet

Media Entrance: Northeast Doors, adjacent to FAU Track

Live Truck Parking: Parking lot adjacent to Northeast Doors

Notes: Workspace is available. .

Tickets are available online at FL.barackobama.com and at five locations in Palm Beach County:

Pahokee Campaign for Change Office - 279 E Main St, Pahokee (Grand Opening Tonight

at 5 PM)

* West Palm Beach Campaign for Change Office - 2790 N Military Trail, Ste 6, West Palm

Beach (Grand Opening Tonight at 5 PM)

* Southern Palm Beach Co. Dem. Party Office - 6634 W Atlantic Ave, Delray Beach

FAU Student Union - 777 Glades Rd, Boca Raton

* Wexler for Congress Office - 2500 N Military Trail, Ste 251, Boca Raton

Doors Open: 3:00 p.m. ET

Program Begins: 4:00 p.m. ET

Hillary Clinton Attends Broward County Event for Senator Barack Obama

Palace Theatre for the Performing Arts - Kings Point

7600 North Nob Hill Road

Tamarac, Florida 33321

**All media must RSVP to Shira Kramer, skramer@floridaforchange.com by Today at 5:00 PM. For logistical and planning purposes only: Aimee Dewing, 818.216.2639 or aedewing@yahoo.com *

Pre-set:1:00 PM-2:00 p.m. ET

*Equipment must be dropped at the site by 2:00 p.m; media will not have access to their equipment from 2:00 PM-3:00 p.m. Live trucks MUST be parked and in place by 2:00 p.m.*

Throw: 50 feet

Cable Run: 350 feet

Media Entrance: Marked door at main entrance in the front of the building, adjacent to general public entrance

Live Truck Parking: Southwest Parking lot adjacent to Artist entrance

Notes: Workspace is available only in fixed seating behind press row.

Tickets are available today at the following locations:

Margate Campaign for Change Office - 6221 Margate Blvd, Margate, FL

* For Kings Point Residents Only*** Kings Point Clubhouse - 7600 N. Nob Hill Road, Tamarac, FL

Tags: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama (all tags)

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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (2.00 / 6)

Wow, Clinton sure does have a packed schedule in Florida on Thursday (see it in the extended entry) on behalf of Obama. Makes Maureen Dowd look stupid.

Hold on a minute. Are you actually suggesting that Maureen Dowd, the Perez Hilton of political journalism, might be full of shit?

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:20:38 PM EST

Anyone feel bad for Bayh? (2.00 / 1)

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride, always the best man, never the groom....

by Blazers Edge on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:26:59 PM EST

don't feel bad for him (2.00 / 1)

It elevates his stature with the home crowd to be seen as a short-list finalist, even if he doesn't get the pick.

I am sure he'll have more opportunities to campaign with Obama in Indiana anyway.

Now he better cough up some more money to the DSCC. He's sitting on more than $10 million. He could afford to give a few hundred thousand at the very least.

See if Saxby Chambliss is helping you.

by desmoinesdem on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:32:16 PM EST
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If that's the case.... (none / 0)

This little bird won't be voting for president.

This little bird won't be giving money.

This little bird won't be dialing phones.

This little bird won't be knocking on doors.

This little bird won't be GOTV.

John McCain, maverick

by lojasmo on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:54:06 PM EST
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Re: If that's the case.... (none / 0)

your signature got me thinking that McCain got his maverick sticky by voting against standard conservative policy (at some point). Interesting that GOP voters are actually acute to that title.

by alex100 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:38:05 PM EST
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Re: If that's the case.... (none / 0)

I don't think he ever did vote against standard conservative policy.

Truly, I don't understand how anybody could think he is anything but a neocon windbag.

John McCain, maverick

by lojasmo on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:07:58 AM EST
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Re: don't feel bad for him (none / 0)

"And all the little bird what are whispering at me are saying.....'"

They have drugs for that now, and some of them with minimum side-effects.

On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....

by WashStateBlue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:02:05 PM EST
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Re: Anyone feel bad for Bayh? (none / 0)

I don't have anything against Bayh other than he isn't Hillary Clinton.

For all the lessor knowns, and even the previous presidential contenders the VP isn't the springboard that it would be for Hillary who already has a large faction of solid support.

They aren't losing out on a shoe in for president in 2016.

Hillary as VP isn't about attaining a position its about maintaining that position. Currently Hillary is ~1% from being the nominee and being VP would let her keep that position until the next opportunity to run.

None of the others have that position to maintain.

by dtaylor2 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:35:01 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Nicely put Vcalzone. That hit the spot.

by Politicalslave on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:28:01 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (2.00 / 1)

In all seriousness, it's important for Clinton to step in front of this. Every bit as important as Obama stepping up to McCain's attacks. Just because she's not in the race doesn't mean she won't be attacked. She's waited too long to bring her people in line, and if she thinks that she will be absolved of any responsibility for not doing so, she's wrong. Either she kills these groups in person at the convention or she will bear responsibility for them.

I said back when these people weren't stuck in their vacuum that Hillary's chances for coming out as strong or stronger depended on throwing her full weight behind Obama (I didn't mention Bill in that, but I'd say it applies to him as well). Hillary's negatives have always stemmed from the sort of stuff Dowd is pushing. She needs to start addressing the unity stuff in the media and start condemning the people who are acting out in her name.

She also needs to tell Bill to quit playing the "McCain more qualified" card. If she intends to run in 2012, it's only to her benefit to weaken him as much as she can now.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:51:29 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

it's a two-way street ya know

by zerosumgame on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:27:31 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

See, that's the kind of thinking that will get her in trouble. Obama doesn't actually owe her very much, it's simply that it is to her benefit to help him out very publicly.

But I said before that I think he owes her an offer for the VP spot. And if so, she owes us to either take it or be more honest about the fact that she didn't want it.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:01:44 PM EST
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Maureen Dowd... (2.00 / 2)

does not look stupid, she is the genuine article.

by tonedevil on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:37:54 PM EST

Re: Maureen Dowd... (2.00 / 1)

and she works hard to maintain that status...

by zerosumgame on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:25:28 PM EST
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Kaine and Sebelius are both losing choices (2.00 / 0)

can someone tell me why are people supposed to get excited about Tim Kaine (he with the now infamous arched eyebrow rebuttal) or Sebelius. Barring that they have been Obama loyalists from the beginning and hence needs to be rewarded by the buddy act did they ever till now act as proper surrogate? Did they ever come out swinging for the Democratic party? Choosing either one of them will be anti-climactic and a poor VP choice if indeed the VP i supposed to be the attack dog. But given the dismal performance of Obama these past weeks I would not put it past him.

by tarheel74 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:38:59 PM EST

I hope "attack dog" (2.00 / 1)

joins "under the bus" in the pile of cliche phrases we never hear again after November.

by JJE on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:43:21 PM EST
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Re: I hope "attack dog" (2.00 / 1)

Put "double down" there too.

by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:44:31 PM EST
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Re: I hope "attack dog" (none / 0)

Indeed -- let's vote them both off the island. It's about time clichés had their Sister Soulja moment.

I am not a crook!

by username on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:05:44 PM EST
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I avoid them like the plague (none / 0)

But the early 90s and early 00s called - they want their references back.

by JJE on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:10:59 PM EST
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Re: I hope "attack dog" (none / 0)

Can I still use "attack poodle" if Obama choose Evan Bayh?

On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....

by WashStateBlue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:21:12 PM EST
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Re: I hope "attack dog" (none / 0)

It may bayh, but sorry... that dog won't hunt.

I am not a crook!

by username on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:51:33 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Obama was once described as "hiding in plain sight", but now he's toying with everyone. He's flirting so much with Biden, Bayh and Kaine that I don't think it's any of the three. Sebelius' movements seem to rule her out. I think it's someone the MSM has not been talking about for a while. And Obama may have a very big surprise in store.

by RandyMI on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:39:06 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Yea, that much is obvious. I was doing some searching around a couple of days ago and came across an article stating that it was down to Kaine, Bayh, Biden, and this was from late July. Obviously, they planted that early, and are sticking to it. It won't be either of those three... and they know it.

Biden knows that its a toy, and is having some fun. Bayh is awkward about it, but has gotten the hang of it. Kaine is playing right along and laughing big about it with Obama.

by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:42:27 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

You don't think the Springfield even is a fake, do you? You don't think that plane will actually land in Florida?

by RandyMI on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:46:11 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Nah.

by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:53:39 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

What about my WWE idea? Is it possible that Hillary might be secretly planning to be in Illinois to appear onstage in front of speakers blasting music and pillars of fire shooting up in the air?

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:59:51 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Perhaps she could even send a double into Florida that would disappear in a puff of smoke at the exact moment she appears on stage in Illinois.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:00:29 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Oh, I thought you were proposing the WWE idea to be inside the convention hall in Denver, all those fireworks, cue HRC:

You want some celebrity huh John McCain, you want some of me!?!

by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:04:00 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (2.00 / 1)

Any chance Warner reconsiders? Because he would be absolutely fantastic. Maybe if you asked him nicely Jerome? Please?

by HSTruman on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:46:38 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

No, he's knee-deep in speechifying. I'm not surprised that He dragged Obama to a VA BBQ place: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFw dbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD92M9G8G0

by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:52:49 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Me either. Us Southerners are getting mighty pissed at you Yankees coopting barbecue.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:02:06 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

well, warner will still be president someday I suspect. But it sure would have been easier to win the nomination in 16 if he was the sitting VP...

by HSTruman on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:05:28 AM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

If I had a dollar for every time Maureen Dowd looked stupid...

Stop the racism. Fight the smears.

by CrazyDrumGuy on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:47:36 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (2.00 / 2)

Perversely, she does...

by HSTruman on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:48:26 PM EST
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BTW (none / 0)

Make this an open thread? Might as well be. I want somewhere to talk about Cindy McCain lying about Mother Theresa. Do we FINALLY have enough to start pushing the idea that the McCains like to stretch the truth? If Al Gore was ridiculous for his (not entirely unplausible) claim that he and Tipper were the inspiration for Love Story, I think claiming to have a personal encounter with Mother Theresa (no matter how nice the sentiment) qualifies as at least unnerving.

Why do the McCains seemingly feel the need to embellish the truth on matters that are already fairly moving on their own? I don't know, but I think that there's more to be found.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:57:35 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

I think you mean "furious" or "futile," not "furtive."

I am not a crook!

by username on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:01:49 PM EST

portmanteau (none / 0)

deal.

by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:10:05 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Maureen Dowd doesn't even have to break a sweat to look stupid- I found this quote in one of her articles from Obama's trip overseas:

Barack Obama wrinkles.

Just slightly, and just when he has to wear a flak jacket over his blue oxford shirt.

The media behemoth slouching after the senator is scouring his every word, expression, bead of sweat, basketball shot and accessory -- are those hiking boots too Bremer? Are the sunglasses too rapper? Will he leave enough time for his glittery groupie, Carla Bruni? -- for hints of imperfection that would foretell lacunae in presidential judgment.

The One, as McCain aides sardonically call Obama, glided through Afghanistan, Iraq and Jordan, girding his messianic loins for the inevitable kvetching he would face in Israel as skeptical Jews "try to get a better sense of what's in Obama's kishkes." So said Nathan Diament of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, in The Daily News, defining "kishkes" as Yiddish for gut.

EWWW.

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC

by skohayes on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:05:26 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Most people are under the assumption that the VP choice had not been made a long time ago by Obama and his folks , I personally believe he had made his choice a good while ago and all of this talk about people rising and falling in speculations based on events are just that mere speculation.

I believe he has picked Bayh a good while ago.

In my opinion Hillary Clinton was ruled out a long time ago.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:15:01 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (2.00 / 1)

Then again I am only speculating lol.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:16:26 PM EST
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Lori, lori (none / 0)

Bayh's chances aren't looking so good right now; the left wing completely went nuts on him as if he were Sam Alito. Why did the Obama folks go out of their way to step on the idea that he was going to be in Indiana on Saturday? Obama's crew seems to like stories hanging out there for the effect.

You called Dayton, Ohio as the location so I suspect you may end up being validated on both of these picks.

by Blazers Edge on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:20:58 PM EST
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Re: Lori, lori (none / 0)

I haven't seen any of the Obama folks step on the news out there about the indiana thing , what I read was that an " aide " whose name wasn't even mentioned said it wasn't true.

Thats not really a denial.

Obama would make a mix of electoral , message and experience pick and that choice is Bayh in my view.

Note I am not a big Bayh advocate , although I think he is a decent guy but I don't see anyone else out there and I believe he has made the pick a good while a go despite the breathless speculations.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:29:07 PM EST
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Re: Lori, lori (none / 0)

Bayh is scheduled to speak on Wednesday , Not sure ?

but if thats the case , then I would be surprised if he is not the VP.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:30:57 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

Just like all the rest of us!!!!

On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....

by WashStateBlue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:26:27 PM EST
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Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

If we are speculating, I think you are half right.

I think Obama et. al. decided a long time ago. I think they picked Clinton in June.

McCain = bad Obama = good

by CAchemist on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:24:15 PM EST
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Cross off Sebelius if Obama will be in Iowa (none / 0)

after the Springfield event because Sebelius is already in Iowa tomorrow. Why would you bring your running mate to Iowa if she was just there a couple of days ago?

As for Iowa and Wisconsin as the first campaign stops for the team, I hope it is the last visit that either will have to make to these two states. They need to be in the bag.

by Blazers Edge on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:18:59 PM EST

Re: Cross off Sebelius if Obama will be in Iowa (none / 0)

Color me confused. Springfield is in Illinois, is Iowa the second scheduled stop?

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:04:25 PM EST
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Dodd (2.00 / 1)

I still like Dodd, Most importantly 'It's the Economy Stupid!'. Dodd can run rings around the wingnuts like the Old School Irish Politician he is on economic issues.

by NvDem on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:45:09 PM EST

Re: Not today, next: Thursday, August 21st (none / 0)

The Bayh boon was felt on the betting markets. It's been amusing to follow. I'm not involved.

Biden was trading at 50% then it plummeted to 36% while Bayh soared a similar amount. He was nearly even with Biden at one point. That was a few hours ago. Now it's steadied with Biden at 41 and Bayh at 20, last time I checked.

by Gary Kilbride on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:00:17 PM EST

Indianapolis? (none / 0)

CBS news is reporting that a rally has been scheduled for Indianapolis on Saturday, the same day as the Springfield event. The Obama campaign isn't confirmong or denying this report.

If Bayh is the pick, this would make sense. If they stop in Indianapolis first, they could stop in Evan Bayh's birthplace of Shirkieville (which is just northwest of Terre Haute on the Indiana/Illinois line), or they could stop there on their way from Springfield.

Of course, this is rampant speculation.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/20/ politics/horserace/entry4366676.shtml

by tlsmith on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:26:02 PM EST

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